Psychedelics and First Responder Mental Health: A Fire Chief’s Journey

Psychedelics and First Responder Mental Health: A Fire Chief’s Journey | Beneath the Helmet Ep. 102

In Episode 102 of Beneath the Helmet, I sit down with retired Battalion Chief Matt Thierfelder to have an honest conversation about burnout, hypervigilance, retirement, and exploring psychedelic-assisted therapies.

After more than 30 years in the fire service, Matt reached the minimum retirement age of 53 and found himself facing something many first responders quietly experience: sleep deprivation, anxiety, emotional exhaustion, and an identity shift after hanging up the helmet.

In this episode, we talk openly about:

• Psilocybin-assisted therapy in Oregon

• Microdosing vs. larger doses of psilocybin

• Ketamine IV therapy and its impact on anxiety and suicidal ideation

• Stellate ganglion block (SGB) for resetting fight-or-flight

• Ibogaine in a medically supervised retreat setting

• Retirement transition and leaving the fire family

• Operator syndrome and firefighter syndrome

• The importance of integration after psychedelic experiences

  ⏱️ Timestamps

00:00:00 – Introduction to Beneath the Helmet
00:01:00 – Matt Thierfelder’s Fire Service Journey
00:04:00 – Highlights from 30 Years in the Fire Service
00:06:00 – Would You Join the Fire Service Again?
00:08:00 – Retirement at 53 and the Identity Crisis
00:10:00 – Burnout, Hypervigilance, and Sleep Deprivation
00:11:00 – Discovering Psilocybin Research
00:12:00 – Oregon Measure 109 and Facilitator Training
00:14:00 – Psychedelic Conferences and Community
00:15:00 – Ketamine-Assisted Therapy Experience
00:17:00 – The Moment He Knew It Was Time to Retire
00:20:00 – Leaving the Fire Family
00:21:00 – EMDR and Vulnerability in Therapy
00:22:00 – Why Psychedelics? The Science and Interest
00:25:00 – Group Psilocybin Work and Integration
00:26:00 – What Is Psilocybin?
00:27:00 – How a Psilocybin Session Works in Oregon
00:34:00 – Legalization and Access to Psychedelics
00:38:00 – Microdosing vs. Larger Doses
00:41:00 – Deep Dive into Ketamine
00:46:00 – Stellate Ganglion Block (SGB)
00:52:00 – Ibogaine and the Structured Retreat Process

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Sometimes the first step toward renewal is simply being willing to look beneath the helmet.

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